War and some facts for the factually impaired Conservatives

History and information is critical for average citizens to make informed decisions.

SO HERE ARE SOME FACTS

The reason to educate people is they supported a foolish war without knowing facts and this war has resulted in hundreds of thousands of innocents being killed in war we did not need.

I wish to make these comments that most Americans choose to remain willfully ignorant about America’s duplicitous conduct of foreign policy vis-à-vis Iraq. I find most College students or people in this building here woefully uninformed of world affairs and very gullible. I have not worked at such a one sided place full of rightwing nuts before!!

That is the reason Bush and Cheney were able to drive fear into them in the post-9/11 world and try to brainwash people into think Iraq and Saddam was linked to the terrorists who attacked us here in the USA. Not one of them ever told the American public that 15 of the terrorist murderers were Saudis and not one of them was an Iraqi. As a University teacher when I challenge my students to discuss data and facts, they are flabbergasted at this revelation.

Bush and Cheney cleverly used the words “Saddam, terror, 9/11” to imply connections. And they used Colin Powell to utter lies at the UN. That is how The Bush Cheney regime manipulated our anger and fear of terrorism to attack Iraq under false pretenses.

CLINTON ONLY LIED ABOUT A personal transgression and they hate him for that while this man has created worldwide chaos by invading Iraq and not finishing the job in Afghanistan!.

FACTS TO PONDER Pay attention to the timeline.

1.The Dujail massacre he was found guilty of, (and executed) occurred in 1982. He was at war with Iran and there were many attempts by Iranian sponsored Shia groups to kill him. We did not care about it then.

2. In June 1982, REPUBLICAN President Reagan decided that the United States could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran. President Reagan decided that the United States would do whatever was necessary and legal to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran.

3. In 1982, the REPUBLICAN Reagan Administration removed Saddam Hussein’s Iraq from the list of states supporting terrorism, despite credible information that Iraq was, in fact, still supporting terrorism against Israel because We (USA) preferred Iraq to Islamic Iran and Iraq was considered to be the “lesser of two evils” as far as American interests were concerned.

4. The world knew about this massacre and other atrocities at that time; most Americans choose to remain willfully ignorant about America’s duplicitous conduct of foreign policy vis-à-vis Iraq. I doubt if Republicans ever cared to talk about human rights or was even aware of previous actions of the USA in Iraq.

5.In 1983 Reagan sent Donald Rumsfeld as the special representative of the Republican Administration, to visit Iraq and establish business relations; and to procure multi billion dollar Oil contracts for Bechtel and other big American corporations while Saddam was violating the rights of his people and committing atrocities. As reported by the New York Times in August 2002: Though senior officials of the Reagan administration publicly condemned Iraq's employment of mustard gas, sarin, VX and other poisonous agents, the American military officers said President Reagan, Vice President George Bush and senior national security aides never withdrew their support for the highly classified program in which more than 60 officers of the Defense Intelligence Agency were secretly providing detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for battles, plans for airstrikes and bomb-damage assessments for Iraq.

6.In 1986, President Reagan sent a secret message to Saddam Hussein telling him that Iraq should step up its air war and bombing of Iran. This message was delivered by Vice President Bush who communicated it to Egyptian President Mubarak, who in turn passed the message to Saddam Hussein.

QUOTE from Wikpedia WebSource: “According to retired Colonel Walter Lang, senior defense intelligence officer for the United States Defense Intelligence Agency at the time, "the use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis was not a matter of deep strategic concern" to Reagan and his aides, because they "were desperate to make sure that Iraq did not lose." He claimed that the Defense Intelligence Agency "would have never accepted the use of chemical weapons against civilians, but the use against military objectives was seen as inevitable in the Iraqi struggle for survival"[4], however, despite this allegation, Reagan’s administration did not stop aiding Iraq after receiving reports affirming the use of poison gas on Kurdish civilians.”-End quote

7.So why was this sudden need in 2003 to punish Saddam for actions he committed with our acquiescence back then? Sudden rush of righteousness

8.In 1984, amidst the Iran-Iraq war that Saddam started, USA under Reagan reestablished diplomatic ties with Iraq and aided him in his war with Iran. This aid included superb intelligence, fire directional supp ort for Saddam’s Russian made Artillery, allowed American companies to sell dual purpose chemical weapons components, supplied trucks etc. (Iraq broke ties with us after the 1967 Arab Israeli war). SO IN THE YEAR HE WAS DOING ALL THE HORRIBLE &*() TO HIS PEOPLE WE GO BECOME HIS BOSOM BUDDY? Who were right? The ones like me who dared to warn of the consequences before March 2003 and dared to challenge the rationale for this war that created this mess, or the righteous tyrannical Rightwing College Republicans who wrote en masse supporting this war without taking the trouble to enlist and die for the country?

9. From 1983 to 1990, the U.S. government approved around $200 million in arms sales to Iraq.

God Bless America for raising ignorant people.

Religion and Politics my views

Religion and politics are two hot issues that make great topics for debate in the media. I have watched in amusement the debate everyday in our papers and our mainstream TV media over the past few weeks, on the asinine views of some legislative disclaimers on science texts.

Institutions of Higher learning are the place to air such views. Those of us who are doctrinaire or encumbered by dogma will take up a strong position on these issues because of their surroundings and nothing else.

It is a lot of fun, because everyone holding these position are convinced that their view is the only correct view, and the only view that matters, and that others who don't accept that are doomed to a not so salubrious afterlife! The hysteria of some of them amazes me.

I see heated views from all sorts of theistic faiths being aired these days. All these recent frenetic Christian views on condemning us non-Christians or agnostics to hell, (what is the zip code for hell anyways?), and similarly virulently anti-Christian arguments such as the one by a Professor Ismael , blaming Christians for all the world's atrocities are indeed food for thought, but they should all be viewed with a pinch of salt.

They are indeed eye openers but that does not make all of it factual. We need to filter fact from faith and that skillful ability comes with worldly experience, intellectual maturity, and a willingness to open our eyes and not be too judgmental. It does not emanate from the bully pulpit nor by paying obeisance five times a day to Deities turning in one direction or ringing bells or smearing ash on a forehead.

Expression of "offensive" views (Christian or Islam or any other faith) have every right to fair "air time" as non-offensive views.

I do not find religious views offensive no matter how extreme the threat of sending me to the hot place down under if I did not accept a certain way, though columnists think so occasionally.

I am convinced that the world is full of good and bad people of all organized faiths(and non-organized faiths too), and beliefs and that all of them are correct relative to their ideologies, and cultures and religions and that no matter how much anyone proclaims and insists that their way is the correct way, in the final analysis, it does not matter except for those venting their fury and want to drive fear into others. It is an avenue of expression that needs to be encouraged and not stifled.

It is heated, and I like the fact that you allow freedom of expression no matter how offensive or controversial a view is. Keep it up. Remember what Voltaire said. "I may not agree with what you say, but I defend to my death your right to say it".

My life philosophy is based on the following verse that I read everyday to enlighten myself. Let me share it with you but you do not have to accept it, (it is strictly a personal view), and you are not going to hell if you do not accept this verse either!

Do not believe in anything (simply) because you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything because it is spoken and rumoured by many.
Do not believe in anything (simply) because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis when you find that anything agrees with reasonand is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all then accept it and live up to it. -Buddha

War in Iraq

Something is quite wrong in the way we react to Arab deaths versus ours in a war ostensibly launched to “liberate” the oil rich nation. Western media continuously highlight only Hitler's gassing of the Jews - and since 2003, Saddam' use of poison gas to kill the Kurds of Halabja in 1982.

Britain was the first nation to use Poison gas against Iraqi people in the years from 1919 to 1921. The British mercilessly used their Air-force to carry out experimental attacks on people who Churchill said were “uncivilized Tribes" (I am strongly in favour of using poison gas which “spread a lively terror.”) when Iraqis rose against colonials. They slaughtered tens of thousands of Iraqis during that period.

British and American governments blocked the Iranian UN resolution censuring Saddam. Reagan lifted the US ban on Iraq as a nation sponsoring terrorism in 1982; and allowed US companies to provide components to Saddam’s chemical weapons program. The US helped Saddam with Fire Directional support, trucks, helicopters and other materiel to fight Iran.

In November 1983, Secretary of State Schulz raised concerns about Saddam using chemical weapons; in December of that year Donald Rumsfeld met Saddam and assured our government’s friendship and materiel support to Saddam’s regime!

These facts are critical to note in the context of the quagmire in Iraq and the propaganda efforts to tie 9.11 to Iraq where there was none. Saddam was hanged, but the British imperial officers who committed war crimes against Arabs faced no trial and made no headlines then!

Willing to pay a patriotic premium????

Jesus pronounced the following condemnation: “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!” He condemned and illustrated their rapaciousness, their selfishness, their inward spiritual emptiness, and their emphasis on “scruple” while neglecting the “weightier” matters of justice, mercy, and faith.

Governmental data reveal 53% of our crops are harvested by Illegal immigrants.


Look around in Norman:

House builders voting conservative hire illegal immigrants keeping costs low, raising their profits.

Almost all the restaurants do too; we want to eat out cheaply?

All the builders here in OK are BIG REPUBLICANs; I don't see any of them in jail for using illegal immigrants to rack up profits in my sub division? Gosh what is wrong here?


Farmers and big agri-businesses hire illegal immigrants; we all expect cheap vegetables, cheap chicken and cheap beef? Where did you think your cheap spinach, salad and carrots come from ? Mostly from California from big Republican farming industries.

Patriots should boycott Restaurants using illegal immigrants in Norman.

When traveling we can demand all hotels certify that they do not hire illegal immigrants to clean rooms and toilets. When you go to Fiesta bowl DEMAND you see the green cards of the immigrant workers and REPORT the managers who use illegals. As Romney would say "it is not american"....ey?

Visit restaurants; but refuse to pay $12.99 for prime ribs/sumptuous rib-eyes; insist on paying $49.99 instead; tell them you are doing this on principle, and are willing to pay the patriotic premium.

Insist milk must come from an American cow whose teats were milked by a American workers only.

Insist the carrots and the spinach are certified free of illegal immigrants; start paying prices the Koreans and Japanese pay for beef. That is how we get serious.

ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY THE PATRIOTIC PREMIUM???????

Focusing only on their costs to the social services and health care systems while callously disregarding their significant contribution (whilst benefiting from it) to the GDP of all our states is racist and downright asinine.

Serious debate and policy changes must first penalize the big profiteers for using illegal labor.
Jesus did not throw out illegals at the temple; he tossed out the profiteering dove sellers, cattle buyers and money changers. Self proclaimed christians need to look at his actions. "My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations?' But you have made it a den of robbers!"
HUCKABEE is now caving into the Evangelicals and starting to sound like Romney(who used illegal immigrants). I thought he was at least sincere in his belief that giving aid to children of illegals born here was the Christian thing to do.

SO HERE IS WHAT YOU PATRIOTS WHO WANT TO SECURE OUR BORDERS SHOULD DO.

Turn in your FARMER PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS FOR USING ILLEGALS.STOP going to restaurants if they use illegals to clean dishes and the toilets to help keep food affordable for you students.

TURN IN YOUR BIG CONSERVATIVE "I want lower taxes, I want lower inheritance tax " House Builder who uses ILLEGALS who does not have a right to complain for getting paid less than fair market wages.

STOP demanding CHEAP FOOD including that CHEAP TURKEY AND CHICKEN you have this season. Chances are it was plucked, cleaned and bagged by an ILLEGAL immigrant working for CONAGRA or other BIG REPUBLICAN DONOR companies.

STOP going to Chilis, BJs, Applebees and other places in NOrman. STAY AT HOME

INSIST The STEAK is labled "illegal immigrant free" like how we demand that Tropical timber is labeled as renewable resources. REPORT YOUR REpublican god fearing Christian Neighbor who uses illegal house keeping staff.

REPORT the Hotels and MOTELS when you go for FIESTA BOWL if they are hiring illegals and INSIST that NO ONE should clean your linen and your toilets unless they are TRUE AMERICAN CITIZENS.

STOP THIS BULLSHIT RACE BAITING HYPOCRISY and try to emulate Jesus in real action instead of words.

I know Republicans will win on this issue because they appeal to the baser nastier instincts in us.
so now ARE YOU WILLING TO PAY A PATRIOTIC PREMIUM To secure our borders? I AM....

oh by the way for those moron Old Republican patriot chicken hawks in our faculty, IRAQ had NOTHING to do with 9.11. and it is Saudi Arabia and Pakistan that create these radical islamic terrorists(of course first check an effing map)before you foul up some other countries and inviting more and more hate and free recruits for Al-Qaeda bastards.

POSTED BYLEGAL IMMIGRANT citizen married to a Born in America citizen whose grandparents migrated here for the same reasons your ancestors came here too; to do work others did not want to do for the pay they got! Think about it. If your are not native american then no matter what your ancestors arrived here for economic prosperity or were forcibly dragged here in chains against your will so you can generate wealth for others who were immigrants too.. Did they get permission from the Native Americans?

Mission Accomplished

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The winning issue for race baiting Republicans!

Jesus pronounced the following condemnation: “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!” He condemned and illustrated their rapaciousness, their selfishness, their inward spiritual emptiness, and their emphasis on “scruple” while neglecting the “weightier” matters of justice, mercy, and faith.


Governmental data reveal 53% of our crops are harvested by Illegal immigrants.

Look around in Norman:

House builders voting conservative hire illegal immigrants keeping costs low, raising their profits. Almost all the restaurants do too; we want to eat out cheaply?

Farmers and big agri-businesses hire illegal immigrants;

we expect cheap vegetables, cheap chicken and cheap beef?

Patriots should boycott Restaurants using illegal immigrants in Norman.

When traveling we can demand all hotels certify that they do not hire illegal immigrants to clean rooms and toilets.

Visit restaurants; but refuse to pay $12.99 for prime ribs/sumptuous rib-eyes; insist on paying $49.99 instead; tell them you are doing this on principle, and are willing to pay the patriotic premium.

Insist milk must come from an American cow whose teats were milked by a American workers only.

Insist the carrots and the spinach are certified free of illegal immigrants; start paying prices the Koreans and Japanese pay for beef. That is how we get serious.

Focusing only on their costs to the social services and health care systems while callously disregarding their significant contribution (whilst benefiting from it) to the GDP of all our states is racist.

Serious debate and policy changes must first penalize the big profiteers for using illegal labor.

Jesus did not throw out illegals at the temple; he tossed out the profiteering dove sellers, cattle buyers and money changers. Self proclaimed christians need to look at his actions. "My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations?' But you have made it a den of robbers!"


LEGAL IMMIGRANT.

Open Letter to Chilcott the British Hypocrite High Commissioner to Sri Lanka

SENT BY SIMPLE SIMEON
YAKKALA

I have a few questions for the outgoing British High Commissioner to Sri Lanka, who has become a great champion of human rights and the best ambassador of peace for the greatest non-violent nation on earth ; the nation that gave us the Magna-Carta.

1. Was there an attack by the British Army on a civil rights march through Derry, Northern Ireland, on 30 January 1972 that killed over 13 unarmed civilians during a march by the N.Ireland Civil Rights Association?

2. Did the English fight a cruel war against Irish Catholics since 1916; and did that war kill thousands?

3. Why did it take the British Government over 26 years to form the Saville Tribunal to investigate the massacre of innocent unarmed Catholic Irish by the predominantly English protestant army?

4. Why did the Widgery Tribunal held immediately after the massacre clear the Soldiers of wrong doing?

5. Why did it take 26 years to establish another tribunal (Saville Inquiry) and why did that panel find the British forces guilty of human rights violations?

6. Why was there a cover up?

7. Why was Sir Michael Jackson, a captain in the 1st British Para regime implicated in this massacre appointed to head the British army?

8. How would someone who was accused of being part of a massacre like that end up becoming commander of the British forces?

9. Why did Conservative Prime Minister John Major reject the people's demand for a public inquiry into a massacre?

10. Were Irish Catholic sympathisers and IRA rebels ever tortured by the English Protestant army over the course of a horrible fratricidal 80 odd year civil war?

11. Why was certain evidence(such as original British Protestant led army photographs, original helicopter video footage etc., ) that day destroyed or made unavaiable to the public

12. Why were guns used on the day by soldiers lost by the British Ministry of Defence?

13. Why did the cover up go on for 1998?

14. Does it mean that 1998 is the year when the English Government made human rights a part of their charter?

SIMPLE SIMEON